is a senior editor
From 2014 through 2017, he served as chairman of the board of
trustees of the leading UK center-right think tank, Policy Exchange
2001-2002, he served as speechwriter and special assistant to
President George W. Bush; in 2007-2008, as senior adviser to the
Rudy Giuliani presidential campaigns.
Frum is the author of ten books, most recently Trumpocalypse: Restoring American
(the putative topic of our conversation).
The memoir of his service in the George W. Bush administration,
The Right Man
, was a New York Times bestseller, as was his
2018 book, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American
He and his wife Danielle Crittenden Frum live in Washington DC and
Wellington, Ontario, where we met lake-side, at The Drake
, buffeted by the breeze, serenaded by the surf. We
talk, among other things, about Trumpocalypse
; Shakespeare and Byron;
crocodiles and alligators; Trump, of course; marriage; how Twitter
affects the writing of a book; adolescence and childhood; Chomsky
and George Washington; America the Good versus America the Bad;
American exceptionalism; finding the right person; and the choice
between changing the world and changing yourself.